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Matthias Schmitt's avatar

I read your books, and Jason Hickel's, and I wish you were working together instead of throwing such an article at him.

We all are in a terrible bind, economically and ecologically. I'll admit that I have a lot of sympathy for asceticism and degrowth positions. To me, as for many in that field, the future economic development of the world is as much a moral problem born out of the exploitation of the global south, as it is one about economics or technology. What's your "solution" compass, if the moral compass of degrowth only earns your spite? In what direction would you lead?

My inner compass tells me that the direction of degrowth is overall correct, even though we do not have all the solutions. What's wrong with starting with the measures Hickel proposes as starting points? Cuts to advertising, scaling down ecologically destructive industries, right to repair, shift to usership?

On your regression critique - what's wrong with learning from great examples? Of course it's possible in healthcare say to compare systems and find that solidarity-based ones are not always, but often, more successful to ensure basic care for all (but then leave less service for the best care for the ultra-rich). Of course it's true that good public transport would reduce the need for private car ownership and associated env damage and space requirements. Of course it is true that consumption levels in the west of wealthy people could be significantly reduced without any truly measurable reduction in the standard of living. And that standard of living is based on monstrous appropriation.

Last but not least: yes, working less and having access to a garden improves life satisfaction and reduces stress levels. And no, in the west pretty much nobody will starve if we had a four day work week and distributed wages and most importantly capital more fairly.

It could turn out though that we actually have to work more for our own lifes, because bangladeshi women might just stop making our shirts for shitty 3 € a day. And if we keep the current "brilliant" capitalist-consumer model that you deem unreformable, well, then humanity is nothing short of fucked, and I'll take all my chances with a just and equitable transformation.

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It feels like the author assumes a human nature rather than a human condition.

De-growth isn't magical circle squaring, it an attempt the square the contradictions of infinite growth and finite resources. Reducing one use items, fast fashion, increasing public transport, food production, education and so on. There are so many productive solutions which are simple but sacrificed in the name of profit. Planned obsolescence springs to mind. We have been conditioned to consume in the ways we do. There have been many ways to govern since the forming of civilization. Mass consumerism and our "democracy" are but one. One which has exploited and extracted, and change can happen.

A debt driven economy based on growth and the dream of being the one that makes it to the 1%. That's the magical thinking. One only needs to look at the research journal industry, medical & pharmacy, food produce sectors to see the clear harm of the need to be in a constant cycle of growth does.

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